Missouri Tenth advocates a “NO” on Federal Debt Increase

According to CNN, “How high is the debt limit right now? The ceiling is currently set at $14.294 trillion. The country’s accrued debt hit that mark on the morning of May 16.” If we, as a people, continue to advocate a policy of runaway debt – what will happen? Certainly nothing good, as evidenced by the numerous Americans who already struggle under a mountain of debt. We must bring the troops home, cut spending on highway repairs, and put a stop to Government welfare. This is an emergency, and like everything else that’s going on in our nation – it’s up to “We the people” to fix it. If you would like your own icon to post on your website or facebook account, please see “visual aids” to download the art (for free of course). To read more, please see CNN Money’s article “U.S. hits debt ceiling: Why it matters

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5 Responses to Missouri Tenth advocates a “NO” on Federal Debt Increase

  1. Craydo says:

    Between recommending Marx, bashing capitalists, and dreaming of China as the new global super-bully, you’re sounding more and more like a communist. Come on – just say you are, and be done with it!

  2. spinoza1111 says:

    OK. I’m a Communist. Happy?

    If any suggestion that businessmen might be greedy or that altruism might be good is Communism, then my Dad (who’s always voted Republican ever since Tom Dewey ran against Truman) is a Communist, and so was William Jennings Bryan,

    Do you even know who Bryan was? He fought to get the United States off a gold standard in the 1890s and onto a silver-based currency because the US had larger access to silver primarily in Nevada, and because this would relieve debtors, mostly farmers, workers and small business owners who could pay off debts with a cheaper (“debased”) currency.

    Bryan felt this was fair because the gold-based fortunes of the wealthy had been mostly acquired not by productive labor but by shrewd speculation that didn’t create wealth so much as aggregate it in the hands of a few and destroy it. For example, Ida Tarbell had documented the rise of John D Rockefeller who didn’t exactly either discover oil fields in Pennsylvania and later Texas as discover men who were willing to sell their fields for less than they were worth. Leland Stanford who didn’t so much provide rail transportation as ensure that his Southern Pacific was in effect the “government” railroad of California in the sense that Stanford ensured that no other lines could be built.

    By the 1890s many Americans were becoming communists, or, like Bryan, willing to redistribute the mostly ill-gotten gains of the wealthy: more than a million people voted for the socialist Eugene Debs in 1920. This is probably because your great great grandfathers had balls you lack.

    Not raising the debt ceiling would destroy the livelihood not only of government employees: it would also destroy that of people who sell to those employees and that of the large number of people who work on government contracts in private firms. The US government wouldn’t be able to pay its bills.

    The wealthy in your state have merely to get on a plane and go to Paris. I’d guess you don’t have this option.

    Much of this conservative ranting is what psychologists call a displacement activity: men who’ve declared bankruptcy twice are often found amongst the biggest ranters for fiscal austerity. Because “to quoque” (you’re another) is the favorite argument (along with “she looked 18 yer honner”) of the incarcerated and criminal element, people overwhelmed with personal problems (such as credit card debt) are apt to point fingers at “government profligacy”.

    Look, get a clue. Governments and corporations “deficit finance” all the time. This is, for example, the way many companies meet their payrolls because while their customers expect flexibility in paying invoices, employees cannot, in almost all cases, “loan” their paycheck back to their company: if a company misses a payroll the employees will quit if they have any balls. Therefore, companies all the time issue “short term paper” which is in fact a form of money.

    To finance expansion

  3. Craydo says:

    Wow Spinoza – I could write a book with all the posts you’ve accumulated on here. Where do you find the time – unless you’ve made a pile of dough off your book, and have a bit of extra time on your hands? So you’re a Communist. Good for you. Or, maybe you may fancy yourself a character out of Ayn Rand’s Atlas Shrugged. But for being a communist, you don’t seem to be overly big on “community” – as it appears you not only disagree, but bash everyone over the head who you don’t agree with. This seems more the identity of an intellectual dictator. And yep – I’ve heard of Bryan. Nice guy. But I get the feeling from the way you “debate” topics on here – that if it was convenient to throw Bryan under the bus to prove your point on another topic, you’d happily do so. Therefore, I conclude that the only thing we all can take from your views – is that you enjoy the sound of your fingers tapping away on the keys.

  4. spinoza1111 says:

    And why do you think I “fancy” myself anybody other than myself? Are your lives so trivial, and are you so fearful of being “legends in your own mind” that you have lost the ability to conceive of yourselves as worthy?

    Before 1980, American self-esteem was based on … being an American, sharing in the Republic, without having to do or be anything special. The license of the 1960s and 1970s caused Puritan America, after the general orgy, to be pervaded with shame. This allowed Reagan to change the American “promise” to a more conditional American “dream”. Instead of pie now, the American would by hard and remedial work prove himself worthy to be “rich” which changed from something often thought despicable to a Calvinist election.

    The result is that most of us, who have no prospect of being rich, don’t dream, and when someone comes up with a complete thought, he’s obviously trying to be a character in a novel.

    But suck on this. I mean every word. I think you’re going to destroy America because you are very, very ignorant of the ante-bellum forces you’re unleashing in Missouri. In the 1850s, Missouri and Kansas were war zones because Southern gunmen, lacking any employment prospects in the South owing to slavery, were paid to migrate into Missouri talking “states’ rights”. They terrorized Northerners who came to Missouri and Kansas to farm without using slaves and would have been pushed off the land by the successful introduction of plantation style agriculture. Fortunately, a “killing gentleman”, John Brown, rose to defend the decent people using the only language the slaveowners understood.

    Your advocacy of a “state sovereignity” which NEVER EXISTED in the original colonies (which were not sovereign in colonial times, which were not sovereign under the Articles of Confederation, and which are not sovereign under the Constitution) nor in the rest of the states (whose sovereign was the red man whom your ancestors killed) is the way in which business buys your statehouses and destroys your health, education and welfare while you only act like men, masochists to their sadists, taking it hoping this will make you men.

  5. Craydo says:

    Puritan America? After the Orgy? Pervaded with Shame? All very dramatic language – and speculative at best. I think this is the second time you’ve told readers to “suck on” something – which makes me wonder what Freud would say. Your comments on the Border War demonstrate a simplistic understanding of history – but clearly from a sanitized public education viewpoint. As if the North didn’t advocate slavery too, and the Northern emigrants were simple farmers not funded by Massachusetts or Northern abolitionists who provided arms to stoke the flames. And your comment on John Brown is blatantly irresponsible – and obviously designed to annoy. Who is paying you to come up with this stuff?

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